Ep 270: David Shedd on China’s Spies

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David Shedd, former Acting Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and author of ⁠The Great Heist: China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets⁠, joins the show to discuss Chinese spy craft.

David Shedd, former Acting Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and author of <a href="https://a.co/d/cMHuTSb">The Great Heist: China’s Epic Campaign to Steal America’s Secrets</a>, joins the show to discuss Chinese spy craft.
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02:05 Early days
06:49 CIA
09:28 Sandinistas and revolutionaries 
15:14 IC preparation 
18:35 A great awakening
26:11 Industrial espionage 
30:50 National Intelligence Estimate
34:11 The MSS
44:19 The culture of the 18th Bureau 
50:17 Battlefield consequences 
55:20 Counterarguments
 
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