 Ep 122: Mike Gallagher and Matt Pottinger on a Victory Strategy for China

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Mike Gallagher and Matt Pottinger join the show to discuss their recent Foreign Affairs essay on the need for a victory strategy in America’s cold war with China.

Mike Gallagher and Matt Pottinger join the show to discuss their recent Foreign Affairs essay on the need for a victory strategy in America’s cold war with China.▪️ Times     •      01:53 Introduction     •      03:25 Meeting in Iraq    •      07:43 “There are bad guys…”    •      13:15 Why detente isn’t working      •      23:45 Real statesmanship?    •      32:12 Rearm/Reduce/Recruit     •      35:20 TikTok<a href="https://bit.ly/41EloxN">Follow along </a> on InstagramRead the Foreign Affairs piece here <a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/no-substitute-victory-pottinger-gallagher">No Substitute for Victory America’s Competition With China Must Be Won, Not Managed</a> Find a transcript of today’s episode on our <a href="http://schoolofwar.substack.com/">School of War Substack</a>

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