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Ep. 74: Church and Deep State (Part 1)
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In this very special episode, Eli explores the moment when Americans finally learned what their deep state did in the shadows. This monologue covers the period between Daniel Ellsberg's leak of the Pentagon Papers and the creation of the Rockefeller Commission to study the intelligence community's past abuses. His guests are James and Thomas Risen, the authors of a new biography of Senator Frank Church: The Last Honest Man.

Time Stamps:

00:31 Monologue

48:55 Interview with James and Thomas Risen